Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Queen of Thorns is ardently open about her own sons oafishness, but the fact that Mace Tyrell was a bit of a dink doesn't mean that Catelyn Tully couldn't have had a good match with him. These two were made for each other as no one else could really stand them for long. A bad husband, maybe, though he didn't enter that marriage entirely of his own design anyway, so I can't blame him too hard for that either (I prefer to blame Hoster Tully and Littlefinger for turning Lysa into what she is). Craig first began contributing to Screen Rant in 2016, several years after graduating college, and has been ranting ever since, mostly to himself in a darkened room. Jon Arryn seems like a decent guy, but there's no way that Ned would have told him. My guess is that the "warding" in this sense is more of a squiring experience (both their parents were alive until they were 15 or older). Robert's parents were dead. No Littlefinger At that point, Robert may call upon Ned as Hand early on during his reign. Why does secondary surveillance radar use a different antenna design than primary radar? There was clearly some conspiracy/ambition, at least if Barbrey has even a nugget of truth. But the risk would be that Jon decided that Jon Snows existence, even if secret, was too great a risk to the stability of the kingdom. But then again, Domeric Bolton was fostered in the Vale too. Why are there two different pronunciations for the word Tee? Is it certain he was send to be fostered, before the shipwreck killed his parents? Robert was born in 263 AC. The two found solace and faith in each other and together created a pretty good life together. We can only assume it is her own feeble attempt at closeness with another human as her descent into madness seems to have driven everyone else off. Where do we even begin with this one. Everyone loves an underdog, and Jon Snow as the illegitimate child (thought to be anyway) of Ned Stark, fit that role. The pair were in love and ran away to escape their respective political nuptials. Jon fostered Eddard Stark and Robert Baratheon as his wards in The Vale of Arryn. Is it safe to say that Robert went at age 6-8, the same range of time that Sweetrobin and Ned were sent? Winterfell Resident, January 8, 2014 in General (ASoIaF), After reading all 5 books of "A Song of Ice and Fire", I know that Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon were both fostered by Jon Arryn. It would have sparked questions. Mya was born in 280 AC. 1 minute ago, Alexis-something-Rose said: 23 minutes ago, Alexis-something-Rose said: Westeros: The 'A Song of Ice and Fire' Domain, A Song of Ice and Fire 2024 Calendar Announced, Game of Thrones Official Fan Convention Tickets on Sale Now, Wrapping Up on House of the Dragon Season 1, GRRM Donates to Northwestern University, Endows a New Chair, Game of Thrones Complete Collection (Blu-Ray). It's in Ned XV when he has that dream of the tourney at Harrenhal. As to Robert, he was an orphan at the time, and couldn't rule in his own right yet I don't think. It's hard to say whether or not Jon Arryn and Catelyn Tully would have had the potential to fall in love, but if Jon was anything like Ned then it's safe to assume that they could have had a happy marriage. It doesnt get lower than convincing a partner to burn their already scarred daughter alive as everyone watches. Mrstrategy, October 8, 2020 in General (ASoIaF). Need we say more? This is very simple, and doesn't need theories. While Tyrion and Shaes relationship was unhealthy enough, it got even more toxic when Tyrion found Shae and his father in bed together. Fostering/warding is extremely common, however, it is usually done within one's own region. His treason/betrayal is his alone. Dude wanted the Starks to be a bigger name, not really any different form the other lords. 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That's why LF was fostered at Riverrun. Robert was an orphan, Ned was not, but he came from the great Northern He furthermore chooses to not just send a raven to summon Ned to court but travel to Winterfell with half the court, including the Queen and half her family as well as their children. Aided by other rebel houses, Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark led a war lasting approximately a year. Robert'sbrothers and alliesclash with his incestuous, scheming former allies, House Lannister, while those with a less legitimate claim to power operate in the shadows. The murder of the Hand of the King brings Ned Stark to King's Landing as Robert's new right-hand man. I agree, plenty of reasons to foster. However, I think we can all unequivocally agree that Jaime does not need one more unhinged lover in his life. I think Lord Arryn would keep his mouth shut, but it would be extremely distracting thinking about it while serving Robert. Maybe these two didnt have the most heartwarming of beginnings, but by the end, we were all in tears. Performance Regression Testing / Load Testing on SQL Server. He needed to go with Arryn and Stark. By But then Rheagar had to screw it up by eloping with Lyanna. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Jon Snow takes off to Castle Black as Ygritte shoots arrows at him, which is why these two land in our number 5 spot. The murder of the Hand of the King brings Ned Stark to King's Landing as Robert's new right-hand man. Perhaps also on the small council. The marriage was entirely to bring Hoster Tully into the war on the rebels' side. This is not exactly right. So it does seem strange he was off being fostered rather than ruling, even if he had a regent. Iwas under the impression that the marriage deal was made before Denys died. An unlikely couple to be sure, a eunuch member of the Unsullied and Daenerys most trusted counselor, but their short-yet-sweet love story is one that still warms our hearts to this day. Streamlined version of the classic boys' names, sometimes a short form of Jonathan, which is in fact an entirely different name from John attached to a different Biblical personage. Jon just started a war to save his adopted sons from the Targaryen dynasty and he just found out his adopted sons betrothed had a child with the former prince, and the other adopted son swore to protect this nephew. It's generally accepted that the death of Jon Arryn is the spark that signals the beginning of the Game of Thrones. Jon Arryn was definitely noble to stand up for his wards against his own king. While the relationship between Lysa Arryn and Littlefinger was weird enough, it paled in comparison to Lysas relationship with her weirdo son. But the witch is not to be trusted and while she brings him back to life, he is only a shadow of the man he was. Ned was there so Brandon would have an agent to the southern houses who was friends with the lord of one of the Great Houses (Robert). Double-sided tape maybe? Having previously written for various sports and music outlets, Craig's interest soon turned to TV and film, where a steady upbringing of science fiction and comic books finally came into its own. The main story of George R.R. He was honorable, but unlike Ned he was no fool. From across the sea comes Daenerys Targaryen - a descendant of the very house Robert rebelled against on his path to becoming king. And yes, he and Stannis were watching as the storm ripped their parent's ships appart. Joffrey becomes a monster and orders Sansa beaten, aims arrows at her, threatens to assault her in her sleep, wages war on her family, attacks her sister, mocks her brothers death, kills her dog, and uses her, just to name a few. Telling Robert would just result in an innocent child getting killed, Ned possibly being executed for treason, and plunge the realm into more war so hed keep the secret to himself. He peered in as he saw his father, Eddard Stark, and the queen, Cersei Lannister, both fully naked as the day they were born. WebThat was what caused such a major rift in their relationships. By that logic, Robert was in the Vale before he was Lord of Storm's End. We do not know. Sure, they had their differences, but at the end of the day, they loved each other. And I don't think LF factors into the southron ambitions in any way. Something Balon certainly was aware of, instantly putting the wheels in motion once Theon was returned. Not only did Shae trick Tyrion into thinking she was in love with him, but she also used him and eventually his father to try to get ahead. Living up to his increasingly violent reputation, King Aerys brought Rickard and Lyanna's eldest brother, Brandon Stark, to King's Landing and instead of listening to their concerns, he ordered the pair executed for treason. Their romance ended with them dying together after yet another failed attempt at taking control of the crown. I think that Lysa was unhappy with him for three reasons. I never understood why Robert was being fostered in the Vale, at the time he was already the Storm Lord, and by rights his place should have been in the Stormlands. He'd be shocked then nothing will really happen. now how is it strange that he would plan his visit when his parents would be returning? No way that would have ended well, no matter how honorable Jon Arryn was. This seems to be a fairly common practice in Westeros - there's all the talk of having Robert Arryn raised at Dragonstone or Casterly Rock, for example. A second son of a High Lord is a perfect match for am heiress of a Lord Paramount position. Me and Jon were just talking the other day about the time Harvey crawled across the couch on all fours to scream in my face at The Peninsulabut as Today I realised that 'milk of the poppy' is just poppy (spoilers main) Ser Kevan might be one of the most well (SPOILERS PUBLISHED) Bran is a much darker character than (Spoilers Extended) The lack of a wealthy, urban [Spoilers Extended] Why the fandom likes Stannis so much? WebEn jon r en atom eller molekyl som har en elektrisk laddning. Since joining the Screen Rant fold, Craig has been involved in breaking news stories and mildly controversial ranking lists, but now works predominantly as a features writer. He probably went to the Vale to learn the ways of ruling from one of the most respected men in the realm. But Stannis is on Dragonstone not King's Landing. A good hand who keeps Cersei and Jaime in check, but kiss the Dornish reconciliation goodbye. Inlcuyen medios depago, pago con tarjeta de credito y telemetria. And of course, Robert wound up marrying Cersei to bring the Westerlands into the fold. News and discussions relating to George R. R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" novels, his Westeros-based short stories, the "Game of Thrones" and "House of the Dragon" TV series, and all things ASOIAF - but with particular emphasis on the written series. That's the only clue I can think of in regards to how he would have reacted if Ned told him about Jon's parentage. Remember, Littlefinger's father also fought in that war, saving Hoster's life, if I recall correctly. While Southron Ambitions is the overriding reason, it's important to keep in mind that Ned wasn't the heir to the North at that point. Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark began their relationship as secret lovers, yet eventually married in a private ceremony. Well, I think Edmure is about 10 years younger than Ned, so perhaps plans for him would be some kind of 2nd phase. Whether she left willingly or not doesn't matter; it's not something that's done either way. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top, Not the answer you're looking for? Amamos lo que hacemos y nos encanta poder seguir construyendo y emprendiendo sueos junto a ustedes brindndoles nuestra experiencia de ms de 20 aos siendo pioneros en el desarrollo de estos canales! For example the Freys and Starks (preRW), Martell and Yronwood, Harry the Heir and Waynwood, Brandon and Lord Dustin etc. I don't think he was plotting Robert's Rebellion. We don't know a lot about Jon Arryn at the end of the day, but Ned pretty deliberately tried to distance himself from Robert and Jon after the war, holding onto whatever affection he had for them before the deaths of Rhaenys and Aegon, which shows in the choice of names for his children. All hail the king and queen of Winterfell! It's possible he could have wanted years later to tell key people what had happened but not right after Jon was born and as he was traveling from the Tower of Joy. After Lord Jon Arryn's untimely demise, King Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, decides to make Eddard Stark, Lord of Winterfell, the new Hand of the King. It's Barbry Dustin talking shit. As someone else said, Edmure was young and Blackfish uncooperative. As for Baratheon--he was entrusted with a sensitive mission to Essos--to find a bride for the crown prince. There had been no official treason launched, Aerys was just a paranoid nutcase and Rhaegar was a prophecy-obsessed sad boy. Would killing one more child be worth it to stop another war? And amongst his wards, for whatever reason, Robert seems his favorite. Also this fostering helped bring Baratheon and Stark together. I don't think there's any anti-Targaryen plot going on between anyone at any time and that the idea of southron ambition is 100%overstated. It is not detailed in the book but it is Jonathan Dwight Jones [1] [2] (born July 19, 1987) [3] is an American professional mixed martial artist currently signed to the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), in which he has competed in the light heavyweight division. In exchange, Daenerys offers up her unborn child in a blood magic ritual to bring Khal Drogo back. Sooner? R+L=J Chapter 20: 18. Westeros: The 'A Song of Ice and Fire' Domain, A Song of Ice and Fire 2024 Calendar Announced, Game of Thrones Official Fan Convention Tickets on Sale Now, Wrapping Up on House of the Dragon Season 1, GRRM Donates to Northwestern University, Endows a New Chair, Game of Thrones Complete Collection (Blu-Ray). This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. We watched as little Daenerys tamed this wild mans heart and became a queen to his people, even after he was gone. As they grew, the two boys became close companions and regarded the childless Jon as a second father. Ok maybe he wasnt that old, but he is well beyond the breastfeeding age. STARTS WITH Jo-ASSOCIATED WITH gracious, gift. The planned marriages between the Lannister children and House Tully were part of it, Brandon's planned marriage to Cat, Robert's planned marriage to Lyana. If Arryn took any interest in Jon over Ned's other children, it would have looked suspicious. My guess would be that the mastermind were the maesters, getting panicky on how dragon obsessed the Targs became, and probably decided after they nearly hatched them at Summerhall to end their line. But as with most Game of Thrones romances, it couldnt last forever, although in GOT timelines, they made it longer than most. He taught Robert and Ned, and he was so honour-bound in My understanding was that wards were given to ensure loyalty of one house to another (a nice kind of hostage). Why did King Aerys demand the death of Robert Baratheon and Eddard Stark? Though now that you mention it, I could be wrong. Ick. So join us as we rank these relationships from aww to eww and dive into the most to least healthy relationships on Game of Thrones. It is clear that King Robert was more interested in hunting and whoring than in ruling the kingdom and therefore let the small council run the realm in his stead. It has never been confirmed at what age Robert went to foster with Jon Arryn, correct? El nico lmite de lo que puede vender es su imaginacin. Later? I think it said Robert and Stannis watched their parents die, right? And would weigh on him badly. And Mace married a woman from House Hightower, another incredibly powerful house in Westeros, but one that is already a part of the Reach. But Lady Catelyn wasn't always a Stark. rev2023.1.18.43173. News and discussions relating to George R. R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" novels, his Westeros-based short stories, the "Game of Thrones" and "House of the Dragon" TV series, and all things ASOIAF - but with particular emphasis on the written series. Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. That's the age Jaime was when he went the Crakehal. Jon didn't turn anti-Targ until Aerys murdered his heir, Elbert, and then demanded Ned and Robert as well. That's what I keep hearingby those accounts shouldn't have Edmure have been there as well? But unlike Ned he would not berate a man like Tywin just for honor alone, risking everything instead of being pratical. It seems Rickard Stark, Jon Arryn, Steffon Baratheon and Hoster Tully met at the War of the Ninepenny Kings and became really close friends and then decided to When Tyrion went on trial for the murder of his nephew Joffrey, Shae appeared as a witness, claiming Tyrion had been violent towards her and even kidnapped her. Of course, Littlefinger never does anything without a plan, so we knew from the get-go he was up to something and it sure wasnt love. While it was true that Jon unearthed the truth about Jamie and Cersei's incestuous relationship, Game of Thrones season 4 confirmed that Lysa was in fact the one who killed Jon Arryn. I think the promise he made was directed to Lyanna, not Jon. Or that Steffon would die, or the Tully's would side with them, or the king would go mad. I honestly think there is little difference between ward and hostage, it is there to be collateral, for better or worse. Martin'sA Song of Ice & Fireis a bloody fight for the Iron Thronebetween several of the most powerful figures in Westeros. And? To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers. Westeros: The 'A Song of Ice and Fire' Domain They also pushed Brandon Stark off a ladder when he caught them having sex, crippling him for life. Though Ned chose to follow traditions and what was expected of him, there was no denying the capital was a dangerous place. And Ned would have sent back defiance (great line from Books) and massed at Moat Callin. Please pass us the tissues. More:Game of Thrones: The Problem With The Night King's Season 8 Plan. While future projects look set to focus elsewhere, Robert's Rebellion remains a fascinating area of George R.R. Without a lord father to teach him to rule, and Jon Arryn was an ideal candidate as he was a capable, older lord of a great house, removed from the local power struggles of the storm lands. Jon Snow Chapter 19: 17. The world got to know Lady Catelyn Stark through Game of Thrones and the book series A Song of Ice and Fire. ETA: Ned and Robert talk of having grown up together, close as brothers or the like. How would Jon Arryn have reacted to this news? Doran needed to pay the blood price to clean up after Oberyn's idiocy. Ashara, Jo Lannister, Elia's mom, etc. Families used to send their kids willingly to learn about other parts of the world and how things are done and to forge alliences. Sansa Stark Chapter 22: 20. If there is one thing the Lannisters know how to do, its keeping it in the family. Was Jon Arryn capable as the Hand? Hoster? WebJon Arryn held the realm together for King Robert. Ygritte was a sword-yielding rebel of a wild woman, and as it turned out, just Jons type. Well, there is the Southern Ambitions theory that Rickard Stark, Jon Arryn, Hoster Tully and Steffon Baratheon were possibly making a grand alliance. Pycelle was all alone. Stannis? Balon Greyjoy was particularly reticent to join with the rest of the kingdoms, a reticence he demonstrated in the Greyjoy Rebellion. This turned the tide of Robert's Rebellion in its namesake's favor, and sensing they needed to be on the winning side, House Lannister betrayed the Targaryens. Martin's mythology. The only blade used by Robert was a hunting knife he received from Jon as a boy. Fair enough. The conflict culminated with the Battle of the Trident, at which both Robert and Rhaegar were present, and the Stag was able to slay the Dragon. Truthfully, however, the Game of Thrones began long before Arryn's murder, and can be traced back to Robert's Rebellion - the war that saw House Baratheon and House Stark band together to usurp Targaryen rule. Jon declined to foster the grandsons of Lord Walder Frey . House Tully does not enter the picture for a decade. Robert lost his parents and was young, Jon had no kids of his own and was a distant Targ relative. Cant leave him with Cat. WebThe Jon, alias of Jonathan Sprague, former member of Steam Powered Giraffe; Fictional characters. And Cat's marriage to a sleazeball who loves her is a small price to pay to avoid war. In many ways, a change at the top was a long time coming. Seems like a good match. For example, just like Ned he also opose Robert in chasing and killing Viserys and Dany. Variant of John or short form of Jonathan. Connect and share knowledge within a single location that is structured and easy to search. As already suggested, it was the Small council which ruled in Robert's presence as well so it would not have been particularly difficult for the members to act without a formal hand or King to preside their proceedings. That makes less sense to me if it means from 14-15 to 18 (3-4 years) as opposed to 8 to 18 (9-10 years). Is any of the members of the small council announced to chair the small council and to serve as the King's proxy during his absence (powers that would otherwise rest with the Hand of the King)? Jon Arryn might have kept the secret, but what if rebellions started to support Viserys? But before that when the kids are 8, Steffon on the small council and cousin to Aerys, Roberts grandmother is a Targaryen. Hoster Tully forking over his eldest daughter to Walder Frey may not have seemed like an appealing prospect for the High Lord or Cat, but clearly House Frey was more powerful than anyone in Westeros wanted to admit, and it would have been smart for the seat of the Riverlands to shore up their strength through an allegiance with the Freys. ` I don't really buy the Southron Ambitions theory. Both found healing and solace in each other from their enslaved and abusive pasts and together formed something of a power couple. And what about the Defiance of Duskendale--was it anything like the start of a Baron's Revolt against the King? It only takes a minute to sign up. How well-known was Aerys Targaryen's madness outside the noble class? And mind you, he's negotiating the marriage with Jon Arryn who has apparently part of this conspiracy. Even after Joffrey and Sansas wedding is called off and Joffrey is betrothed to Margaery, his torture of Sansa doesnt end. Robert and Ned's fathers along with Jon Arryn were all veterans of the War of the Ninepenny Kings. WebJon Arryn has a strong sense of honour and taught that honour to Ned and Robert - in which Ned truly picked up on it. How do I submit an offer to buy an expired domain? Jon Arryn who has no children and no heirs. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. King Aerys Targaryen II was not called "The Mad King" for nothing, after all. Jon fostered lots of kids according to Roberts comments. But then grownup Sam came to change her fate and made her his wife and brought her along on his adventures. While they may no longer reign over their wintry kingdom, they will forever reign over our hearts as Game of Thrones cutest couple. Why? I would say that it was the small council that ran Seven Kingdoms in Roberts absence. But from Ned's perspective, IMO, it's not just his own code of honor that holds him to the "promise" he made to Lyanna. Maybe enough to resign for health reasons and return to The Vale. It seems Rickard Stark, Jon Arryn, Steffon Baratheon and Hoster Tully met at the War of the Ninepenny Kings and became really close friends and then decided to strengthen those ties by fostering and betrothing their children. I think Eddard in a way saw Theon as a ward as opposed to a hostage, but for the Greyjoys and Theon himself he was to be seen as nothing but a hostage, a spoil of war. And when Daenerys found out she was pregnant with Khal Drogos baby, fans were over the moon too. So this will be speculation and logical inference. Did he not leave both his brothers in King's Landing. Search. When Ned Stark was a boy, his father Rickard sent him to foster at the Eyrie. But over time the two began to form a connection that made us all swoon. Why is sending so few tanks to Ukraine considered significant? At the least it was said to be a loveless marriage. Craig has previously been published on sites such as Den of Geek, and after many coffee-drenched hours hunched over a laptop, part-time evening work eventually turned into a full-time career covering everything from the zombie apocalypse to the Starship Enterprise via the TARDIS. I think it says it all when one of your so-called allies, Hoster Tully in this case,pulls a Walder Frey and negotiates a marriage to enter the war on the side of the rebels. Eventually, Daenerys has to smother Khal Drogo to end his suffering in the final ultimate act of love. So I don't think anything else would have been different. The Starks may have fostered kids as well. The short love affair ended after Littlefinger convinced Lysa to poison Jon Arryn who was lord of the Vale, leaving her in charge. Card trick: guessing the suit if you see the remaining three cards (important is that you can't move or turn the cards). Kids are also used to make deals. No, he wasn't. Jon was the Warden of the East and Not a big reach, it's not like they could of known Robert and Ned would hit it off. It is also possible that Council may have been acting as a combined body acting through popular vote. Gilly was one of the Free Folk and the daughter, and also the wife, of Craster. To think the offspring of the head of two houses was given to the house of Arryn for anything but political purposes would be silly, I say this with no tin foil, what better way to forge a 3 way alliance between 7 competitive houses than to have one big happy family. Marriage: Catelyn Stark and Ned Stark . I have not heard that before. It could go a few different ways from there. But with his outwardly charming ways and golden boy good looks, plus that whole next-in-line to be king thing, he was able to woo Sansa. Whether there stillbirths and miscarriages were all his fault seems unlikely to me, but I think he was part of it. Maquinas Vending tradicionales de snacks, bebidas, golosinas, alimentos o lo que tu desees. It's a shame really. Ned has no idea how accepted Robert's reign will be and what will happen with support for the Targaryens. WebJon graduated from Emerson College in 2008 with a degree in Television Production / Radio Broadcasting. I think with Eddard and Robert it was a case of: Here is my son, my bloodline, I entrust you to take good care of him, teach him your ways, and should you treat him well, our next generation will form an alliance. And yes the council ran the kingdom that is made clear. Ned treated Jon as his son - regardless of his legitimacy, and despite And he didn't marry his way into the alliance until after the war had started, and even that came about only after the next heir after Elbert, Denys Arryn, was killed at the Battle of the Bells and then Denys' infant son died as well. Tyrion Lannister Chapter 21: 19. I don't think there ever was an anti-Targ conspiracy, so much as it was a matter of the great Houses figuring out the Targs needed them more than they needed the Targs. Had Ned never accepted "Southron Ambitions"? But Lady Catelyn wasn't always a Stark. 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